![]() The influences of western painting styles was only getting stronger influence in porcelain painting in the 20th century, during and after the second quarter of the 20th century. Yours apparently was made using (1) chemical pigments (Kangxi items were made with mineral pigments), (2) uses a certain color not used during most of the 19th century, and (3) uses realistic painting styles reminescent of western painting. ![]() The PBS item looks authentic Kangxi era, at leaste judging from the part that is visible. Please be aware that the same black background and similar white plum flowers does not make yours and the PBS item the same in value. If Ms Gordon really did indeed classify this as 19th century, Chinese, then she is off my list of potential authors whose books I might buy. This sort of classification has little practical use.Īnd, you are sure they (your aunt and Elinor Gordon) did not talk of another item? This is just a color classification method used by Europeans, categorising Chinese porcelain of all ages according to their predominant color. That both items are "Famille Noir" does not mean they both have the same history or value. Your bowl is very far from that, both in view to painting style and colors used. Nobody knows it all.įirst the item shown at the PBS link: that would be a Kangxi vase. Experts go wrong too, and sometimes they need to consult with fellow dealers, etc. We always recommend to ask two or even more sources for their views. ![]() We here never give appraisals - only our own opinions. You can give an opinion, but appraisals are a different matter, usually more formal, detailed views are given. I never would think it possible to give a reliable opinion, even less a formal appraisal based on a single picture. Please rest assured I am convinced my bowl probably has very little value, other than sentimental-plus I really love it and it looks great on display. I was only posting the link in case anyone else was interested. I am also well aware as I mentioned that my bowl is nothing like the PBS bowl, other than it's considered famille noire. Plus I think it's neat to have a handwritten letter from this woman who obviously was well respected in her field. My point was, after finding out who Elinor was, I was pleasantly surprised that she even took the time to respond to my aunt's letter, in particular since my aunt didn't offer her any money for her trouble. I should not have even mentioned the word 'appraisal.' (And, no, my aunt did not send Elinor a photo of the marks-just one shot of the bowl.) My aunt was just asking her if she could tell her more about the bowl and it's possible value (i.e., her opinion). I'll post this just in case anyone is interested: Comments for Help Identifying Fish Bowl-More ResearchĪs I stated, I certainly do not consider Elinor's note to my aunt as a reliable estimate of the value or age of the bowl, since she had received only one photo from my aunt. Now, I am certainly hesitant to feel an appraisal based just on one photo is conclusive however, it really is exciting to know I have this handwritten letter from Elinor Gordon.ĭuring my web search, I also found a video from an old 'Antiques Roadshow' which appraised an object with a somewhat similar appearance (although obviously much older than what I have). (Signed Elinor Gordon and mailed from Cape Cod.) The replacement evaluation is about $3-4000. The appearance of thickly applied paint makes me feel it is not an earlier version of the design. I believe the piece to be used as a fish bowl and dates to the mid 19th century. It is hard paste porcelain made in China and decorated in the background known as famille noire. "The picture which you sent to me can be properly identified. Gordon was considered quite an expert at one time: Here is the handwritten reply my aunt received from Ms. Turns out, she had written to Elinor Gordon, a Chinese Export Porcelain specialist she had found through an ad in 'Art & Antiques' magazine. ![]() After digging through some old correspondence today, I finally found the letter she had sent and the response she received. I thought she had given me the response, but had no idea where it was. Since posting about my fish bowl, I've continued additional research with some interesting findings.įirst, I remembered my aunt (who gave me the fish bowl) told me that some time ago, she had written to someone and sent a photo to get an appraisal.
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